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If humans manage to digitize themselves and live on a network in which their essence has no single point of failure, will they finally be able to achieve freedom from government since there won't be a monopoly on violence?
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J · 76w
in australia they trying to enforce digitalID. digital sovereignty is being lost.
- · 76w
If humans have a soul and they haven't given their allegiance to the gov't then they are eternal and completely free. Even in death.
Tim · 76w
There will be someone with the power of the DELETE key…lol
xplbzx · 76w
Would digitized humans still need to interface with the physical world? I feel that would be a single point of failure. If not then maybe so but I can't imagine how a perpetual network would sustain itself organically. Would that not mirror nature with humans as some kind of mycelium?
Anda · 76w
Their freedom is only derived from their ability to maintain their status on the network. If they lose their "key", they lose all that is left there.
ĐaꝞꭵꞧuꞩ.₿ 🟠 · 76w
I don't think that is how we get the monopoly on violence to end. I think that an army of drones bound outside of human interference by unchangeable code and with absolute moral certainty is a much more likely way to solve the problem.
prepare to jibe · 76w
Living without risk probably wouldn’t be living or human for that matter. So, I’d say, no. Digital me isn’t alive in the human sense.
Melvin Carvalho · 76w
It's kind of already here, IMHO. Gov will persue what they think are threats, but digital self living on a network, may be allowed, on a per user basis. If it gets big, that's a different story. Predator/prey model.
Comte de Sats Germain · 76w
No.
Melvin Carvalho · 76w
Essentially you hash your digital twin in an evolving tweaked UTXO. Then replicate the off-chain state widely, and allow it to evolve as you do. I do this all the time. But I think it'll be quite some time before anyone else wants it.
Stirling Forge · 76w
Watch Pantheon (anime) When humans digitize themselves shit gets way not good
Andy · 76w
Hard to comprehend what violence even is in such a system. Or scarcity. Or mortality.
Machu Pikacchu · 76w
It hinges on how we define violence. For example some people argue being put in jail is violence and there are likely analogous methods you could create for the digital world.
frphank · 76w
Good luck with that but it sounds like the ideas Balaji has with the Network State.
Ideia da Coerência - Conceito · 76w
On the contrary: governments are fueled by the desire for no single point of failure.
mleku · 76w
a digital version is not the same, nobody has ever proposed an answer to the question of "migration" in this nonsensical scenario, what, lethal injection? how do you retain this unique identity once you are made into a copy? sorta doesn't make sense the game Soma and another game Stray both cover t...
Bryan · 76w
Who runs the hardware? There are always methods of control.
JohnyDoor · 76w
PLS no
RebelOfBabylon · 76w
That seems like a bad idea. There will always be IRL humans or conscious beings who could shut everything down. You're at the mercy of their violence no?
Theory of Everything · 76w
The matrix has you Jameson.
Callum · 76w
Government is not directly equivalent to 'monopoly on violence'. Not even close
Chucky 🫂 · 76w
Your digital life will belong to a corporation that has lobbyist and will hence be directly controlled by the gov.
Bitcoiners Quotes · 75w
Man’s soul is digital