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We have recently disabled the ability to zap @ZEUS wallet users from Mutiny. You may still pay their invoices or LN addresses normally but a big problem we were seeing was force closed channels due to stuck payments to Zeus due to their work arounds with locked payments. Which harm both the user experience and other lightning nodes on the network.

Since nostr users are mostly unaware if they're zapping Zeus users or not, we are taking this step proactively to protect users from having a 10 sat zap costing them serious on chain channel closing (and reopening) fees.

The approach we are working on for solving lightning addresses on mobile wallets is a fedimint hybrid approach where the sats end up at a federation if you are offline but get swept to your self custodial channel when you come online. Payments will settle instantly with the federation and it won't lock up unnecessary HTLCs on the network.

Ideally we get the ability to do offline receives normally on LN but that future is looking really grim with LND's continued priorities on shitcoins instead of features, and offline receives depends on a network wide upgrade.

We petition Zeus to move to a more responsible node implementation like LDK unless their plan is to add shitcoins or break LN further.
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Haroun Kola · 139w
Oh no. Not shitcoins Zeus. That's such a pity. Why would you do that?
mandalorianhodl · 139w
Zap zap zap
Max · 139w
CeNsoESHiPp!1!!1 lol, sorry, but I had to πŸ˜‚πŸ–€
iefan πŸ•ŠοΈ · 139w
Whoa!
DarthCoin · 139w
What's next for Mutiny? Get together with FinCen and limit payments to all other LN implementations? What kind of "non-custodial" wallet is this if the LSP will do this move against all its users?
hundehausen · 139w
One of the reasons I prefer Monero. It just works.
β‚Ώlog · 139w
I was outraged by the no bullshit bitcoin headline, but after reading the article I was like, oh...is this why my channels get closed after sending 21 sat zaps?
Base58β›“πŸ”“ · 139w
spicy.
πŸ„·πŸ„ΈπŸ„ΆπŸ„·β—πŸ…‚πŸ„²πŸ„ΎπŸ…πŸ„΄ · 139w
how much work would be required to switch implementations? I'd imagine a lot?
Erik · 139w
What's the state of lnrod/LSP-LSP async payments? I think it's a cool idea
nym · 139w
This is why I use Namecoin.
Luka Percic · 139w
solving ln with fedimint, sounds a bit like a word salad guys
SBW · 139w
Guys, your devs were (indirectly) calling me incompetent earlier, but publicly dunking on your colleagues like this is not a sign of great professionalism. Go ahead and make those missing features instead like I was actually trying to do back in the day.
ExFrog · 139w
Give me the option to shoot myself in the foot. Hide it in the options, put a warning behind it, but this is a slippery slope and a bad look for an open interoperable network.
Kamo Weasel · 139w
This is the fiat way
Jose Sammut · 139w
Node on the phone is gay
Jose Sammut · 139w
Not a fan of LND but never seriously investigating alternatives. Rebuilding my node atm so might use something else.
βš‘β‚Ώitβ‚Ώyβ‚Ώit⚑ · 139w
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yutaro · 139w
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Keysa - Simplest Bitcoin Edu · 139w
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Aaron · 139w
Mutiny and Zeus the two power houses I missed the #Zapathon I'm not hinting lol only joking guys I love Zeus I continually use it every day and Mutiny wallets will ave they're day facts πŸ’―
LL62 · 139w
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Alex · 139w
Re: LND's continued priorities on shitcoins I think post author is referring to LND's Taproot Assets (a.k.a Taro) Here is from Lightning Labs recent newsletter (August 2023): """ Over the next year we will also probably see more APIs added to support the Taproot Assets project because that will b...