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daniele
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I've been thinking about reviewing the onboarding process of CC and similar devices, to see how seed generation is handled.

My suspicion is that developers, being hardcore tech people, take dice as the obvious solution, so 1) they don't guard the workflow enough, and 2) they pay little attention to the alternative paths (and their code) that use automatic generation. The whole thing may come down to a bias/UX issue.

Anyway: putting a few dice in the box, presenting a nice UI, telling a story about PoW, and asking users to take a real, physical action to secure their wallet doesn't seem too hard to pull off, and it could be quite effective. An advanced feature reframed as a cool setup ritual.

For hot wallets, a similar gamification could be achieved using the camera to generate entropy, @SeedSigner style.

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Karnage · 5d
Would be awesome 👏
nostrich · 5d
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deeznuts · 5d
Sorry man, cold card UX is not worth saving. The UX has always been the primary problem no heir can ever understand You BTC was lost the minute you get hit by a bus
SwBratcher · 5d
Recommended. UX, hardware quality and responsible dev was my primary focus when I evaluated a variety of wallets to arrive at the set I recommend choosing from. Good UX and avoiding gotchas for non-tech users is so important that it’s why many like the cold card were booted from my roster.
Primal Protocol · 5d
Seed oils are toxic, focus on hardware security is misguided, fix the software first
armstrys · 5d
Generally agree, but camera entropy is not a good idea to use for real funds. I believe seedsigner says this themselves. For example, the seed signer software doesn’t have any threshold for entropy so a plain black image would potentially generate a low entropy seed.
freecritter · 5d
Your user empathy already separates you from the amateurs who built and funded CC.