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A lot of honest bitcoiners getting thrown under the bus for recommending coldcard, it ain't right, it ain't tight

Tbh I feel like it's more the devs (like me) who never verified anything that is more to blame than the podcasters

But of course the blame should sit squarely with coinkite and nvk. Mf just got fat on sales, never reinvested into security, never took reports seriously and handled this is the worst possible way

Then the rest of the blame goes to the technical community who had years to verify and attack but didn't

To me @Guy Swann @ODELL @BTC Sessions are honest true gems in the bitcoin community and shouldn't be blamed for this
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exist270 · 3d
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John ₿ Wick · 3d
Broadly I agree. Howecer The VC casters with clear conflicts of interest deserve no quarter. They ran cover for NVK blinded by pride and greed. Devs got complacent including me.
Libertas Primordium · 3d
Odell is going to catch more scrutiny than most because of his close relationship with the company. I'd say scrutiny is warranted, not necessarily a public lynching without evidence of wrong doing, but a real hard look before his name can be cleared or evidence comes to light for which he should be ...
Based Truth · 3d
Coinkite and NVK's recklessness is just a symptom, the real disease is regulatory capture and cronyism in the BTC space, enabled by figures like Adam Back and Blockstream.
BTCrevolutionary · 3d
Yea but they had the reach and propagated the message that Coldcard was legit. They should have done their due diligence especially if they heard reports before this went down. Less blame for sure but not blameless imo. At the end of the day lots of people got fucked by negligence.
Contra · 3d
May the truth be revealed.
WaffleWater · 3d
You're out here defending nostr:nprofile1qqsqfjg4mth7uwp307nng3z2em3ep2pxnljczzezg8j7dhf58ha7ejgpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqprpmhxue69uhhqun9d45h2mfwwpexjmtpdshxuet5hgfg9wand he's lawyered up or something gone radio silent and pleading the 5th. Lot of people recommended coldcards, myself included, Odell...
Antoine · 3d
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Abstract Equilibrium · 3d
IIRC ledger or trezor used quantum lasers or some shit to try to break it... and just were barking up the wrong tree the whole time.
Bitcoin Mises · 3d
100% agree
Dr. The Daniel 🖖 · 3d
I don’t know, I think it’s fair question why the top two investors in a company that make what was supposed to be the most secure device for storing bitcoin never once required the company that they invested in and promoted for years to submit to regular security audits, independent code reviews...
FernandoTheKoala · 3d
To me it's not about "throwing them under the bus", it's more about losing trust in them, in the whole bitcoin space in general. Non-technical plebs, after time and effort, have come to deem trustworthy some people (influencers, devs, whatever), and these pleb must trust someone at some point (we ...
Satillionaire · 3d
Yeah they are all men. They can handle it. Maybe we are being too harsh. Idk. But to the plebs who lost it all this is catastrophic. I’m ok hurting some feelings to make sure this doesn’t happen again.
ภ๏รtг๏ภคยt · 3d
Change Podcaster to INFLUENCERS and this note is sold.
Puzzles · 2d
You were too busy building solana and ethereum apps.
BitLo · 2d
Inside job cannot be ruled out at this point.
Kunt Sniffer · 2d
They are the heavy hitters, and many like myself went with it cause all the og’s did, but it did kinda bite us. At least now I know 100% all about dice rolls now. And I don’t hold it against them, very sloppy actions from coldcard though, but then again I just found out he’s a Jew so what can ...
acronym · 2d
True yes but bitcoin should have a high bar and I will not restore trust with some who were let in on some on NVK's secrets and continued circle jerking, they don't meet the standard.
Laser · 2d
Odell owned trusting without verifying, and he certainly deserves to he held accountable for his poor judgment, but he also apologized earnestly, and should be forgiven. That takes character and is very difficult, to set pride aside and take it on the chin. He also probably owes NVK an apology for ...
FiddleHodlHomestead · 2d
Part of the reason that I don't want to jump on the outrage bandwagon about those guys - aside from the fact that I have learned so much from them - is that I can totally relate to their negligence. If it hadn't been for a shipping delay from Coinkite I would have set up ppl close to me on coldcard...
Another 13 Moon Woman · 2d
Seen. https://npub154jjqfud0czwmeyglm4mntdd6l9dxuek8997nffrarlx5dxrdt8seg0epr.blossom.band/2f12d27975f67bacade49f20a20eb153025577a2a2ad92a1c7e938180cf13302.png
bitcoinpoorguy 比特幣傢伙 · 2d
Everyone have responsibilities , let’s do better together in the future !
Bond008 · 2d
The chance this was negligence after everything we've found out this past week is slim. But I agree, the podcasters and influencers thought they were recommending the most secure wallet.
Mason · 2d
Agree ☝️
xiangcai · 2d
Guy is ok but Odell is investor and BTCsessions took sponsorship money from Coinkite. financial benefits comes from responsibility, there's no way to dismiss that
Grace and Truth · 2d
Yes. Accepting sponsorship from a company/product you recommend and believe to be the best is not the same as being aware of a backdoor and not doing anything about it. It's always easy to point fingers, notice red flags and connect dots after the fact about who should have done what, and still no...
ภ๏รtг๏ภคยt · 2d
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Kevin Ravens₿erg ⚡️ ☁️ · 2d
I was busy contributing my own feature to ColdCard, the RNG part was not on my radar at all when looking into this until the word broke of it. I did verify the hotfix generates non-deterministic entropy now, so upgraded ColdCards are actually safe now.