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The Montana state legislature voted to ban TikTok in the state. The bill would prevent a company from allowing people in Montana to download the app.

https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2023/billpdf/SB0419.pdf

The bill states that the reasoning is because 1) China is an adversary to the U.S. and 2) TikTok promotes harmful behavior and collects data on users.

It was sponsored by a Republican and mostly passed by Republicans. Most Democrats opposed it but were outvoted. It still needs to be signed by the governor, and it would be open to court challenges.

I don't like TikTok, but that's not a promising snapshot for where lawmakers are in terms of software control.

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₿ryan | 👍BIP119 BIP176 · 157w

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CitizenPleb · 157w

Data Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

Many other states (first was Arkansas) are also requiring extensive KYC + parental permission for kids (<18) who want Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok. YouTube, truth social, and any other app are exempt https://consumerchoicecenter.org/arkansas-is-inches-away-from-locking-millions-of-young-people-...

I thought long about this over the weekend, as I visited some WWI internment camp memorials in the Canadian mountains. Immigrants from Eastern Europe were placed in work camps, not for being found guilty of a crime, but because they were "more likely" to be sympathetic to our adversary. What happ...

How will they enforce such law? They can't "physically" prevent people from downloading the app (many ways lead to the market). What about the people who has already downloaded the app? You can't ask them to uninstall the app, or stop using the app. Complete waste of tax payers money. PS: Imagine d...

"Tiktok may not operate within the territorial jurisdiction of Montana... An entity that violates a provision of this section is liable in the amount of $10,000 for each discrete violation and is liable for an additional $10,000 each day thereafter that the violation continues." Not sure what they ...

Chilidem · 157w

I mean America should shun TikTok for obvious reasons, but this is not the way.

Captain Sarahtoshi Nakamoto · 157w

I live in Bozeman, MT, the governor's home town. He's a dick, as a person. He'll sign the bill. I'm terrified. Fuck Gianforte and the New Jersey horse he rode in on. Montanans are no longer in control of Montana. But, we got cows and guns and, we know how to use them both.

Captain Sarahtoshi Nakamoto · 157w

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I think TikTok is horrible for multiple reasons, but primarily its connection to the CCP. Therefore my family and I do not use it. Having said that, this bill accomplishes precisely nothing unless they also ban VPNs. #[0]

bitjoon · 157w

Wait, isn’t an app code? USSC has already determined that code is speech. Doesn’t the 1A still apply to Montana? What’s wrong with my reasoning?

nicnym #BIP-110 · 157w

Montana also passed a hugely positive Bitcoin bill at the same time…. Go figure https://fastdemocracy.com/bill-search/mt/2023/bills/MTB00010644/

₿ramanga⚡☦ · 157w

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

signal_and_rage · 157w

Do you see what Utah did? They KYC’d TikTok “The bills, which the tech industry opposes, requires all users to submit age verification before opening a social media account.” https://www.reuters.com/world/us/utah-governor-signs-laws-curbing-social-media-use-minors-2023-03-23/

Bitcoin is digital gold. Tik Tok is digital marijuana. #[0]

nostrich · 157w

I agree but in this case I think that TikTok represents negative value compared to free and open source software like Bitcoin. TikTok is a closed source centralized application that spies on users and frequently generates pedophilic content

I get the sense that this is a backlash bill. Essentially: You can’t legislate morality, but if people don’t regulate themselves at some level, then society will do it for them. This is the pendulum swinging back from absolute hedonism.

nostrich · 157w

I mean this would be way better than the RESTRICT act, right?

Big Sloth · 157w

Data for me and not for thee!

davesoma · 157w

I believe that, as more people start questioning their freedom, it will end up being an advantage for us, free minds.

LayerZero · 157w

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it seems to me like regulators are taking the easy way out. Instead of trying to understand the problem from first principals, i.e., the app isn't the problem, the regulations around data protection and data gathering are. As well as pushing for more education regarding our digital footprint and t...

Bill Allen · 157w

I don't use TikTok, but I oppose any bill that singles it, or any other company, out. They need to write laws that are meant to be followed by all, if they're going to do stuff like that, which I admit, I'd probably also oppose, but at least that's the honest way to write laws.

Good luck banning software. Political propaganda for normies.

Kevin the Barbarian · 157w

Yes - ban the action not the actor. Whatever they think the app is doing (siphoning data / spying / etc) ban those things.

nostrich · 157w

Literal boomers writing anti software law. Idk, to me the effect of TikTok on the youth seems as bad as the effect of Facebook on people over 60.

I would love to hear a telecom expert talk about how this could actually be imposed. Sounds ludicrous to me. I dislike TT, but no idea how you prohibit it.

dr.fred · 156w

it is irrelevant the drug cartel called government cannot do anything about it it cannot be enforced like banning alcohol or banning bitcoin criminals always do the most stupid things