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No one has answered the second question in this note, but still I've learned a lot from the answers. Thank you.

The main lesson, which I should have known if I had paid attention to the world, is that most people don't want to talk in a "public square" or about abstract topics to strangers on the internet.

This leaves us with a clear path to adoption, which is also not a new discovery, but still worth repeating: small communities.

The original vision of Nostr wasn't really this one, and it's not that exciting as becoming the public square of the internet, and most people will still not be interested in small Nostr communities at first, no matter how great they are, but still I think it's still one approach very underexplored.

The good news is that Nostr is well positioned to deliver on it. Much more than any other Twitter clone out there, by the way, because we have relays with arbitrary rules and we don't worship an idealized fully flat global state paradigm.

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Yarnlady 🧶 · 5d
Unless you can un-normie the normies, I'm stuck.
DarthCoin ₿⚡️ · 5d
The best advantage of nostr is that CAN BE BOTH (public square and private community) in a way that doesn't affect one or another.
mar · 5d
The solution is to implement a facebook type friend request system. LFL says they are going to implement that. Which means you won't be able to interact with anyone unless you friend request them. That's the only way to end the spam and he the normies to join. Without that system, nostr is just a c...
BrianFitzwater · 5d
Everyone finds NOSTR at the time they deserve
fiatjaf · 5d
What is a small community? Could be many things. In my mind I always think of the group chat with rules and visibility enforced by a temporarily trusted relay (the NIP-29 approach); or having one or more restricted relays be used for different purposes in a microblogging client that surfaces these ...
DarthCoin ₿⚡️ · 5d
https://i.postimg.cc/J07cdtKs/lower-expectations.jpg
𝕋ℍ𝔼 𝕋𝕆𝔻𝔻𝕊𝕋ℝ · 5d
This is why Concord groups are so promising, they could deliver on that exact goal
₿𝓲𝓽00 · 5d
This gets closer to what would make me invite people. I don’t need Nostr to become more like Twitter. I need to be able to tell someone, “there’s a place here for your thing.” Cars. Fitness. Local community. Music. Parenting. Photography. Whatever they’re actually into. Small communitie...
Globe99 · 5d
Lots of people still want to talk about abstract concepts with strangers on the internet. They're all on Twitter (for now at least). Many of them are deluded enough to think that Twitter is just "what people are talking about," i.e. some avatar of the general zeitgeist. For others, it's simply t...
Marcus Reid · 5d
"You're right that small, trust-based communities drive adoption, but decentralization also needs resilient networks against subversion—especially if states view them as threats. I was reading about Gladio-style hybrid warfare tactics adapting to new tech, and Nostr's antifragility could be key in...
codonaft · 5d
> No one has answered the second question nostr:npub180cvv07tjdrrgpa0j7j7tmnyl2yr6yr7l8j4s3evf6u64th6gkwsyjh6w6 I think I did? Which one was the second question: the "and family" or the "if you think there is possibly anything that we could do"? My answer to both is mostly reliability in the crapp...
rafael_xmr · 5d
discovering that the end goal is small communities is like when you are into anarcho capitalism and find out about Hoppe and first discover about covenant communities and that it's not meant to become a "global freedom open border" thing
Râu Cao ⚡ · 5d
I fully agree with most people on the planet not being interested in discussing anything with strangers on the Internet, and when it comes to Nostr, I usually tell people that I'm much more excited about the Other Stuff than I am about the Twitter use case. Things like Electrum co-signing messages n...
⚡️DEFAUXKING⚡️ · 5d
I do like the idea of stealing the most successful parts of the most successful social media machine, ie FB
liminal 🦠 · 5d
Some points on how i'm mapping nostr and how I orient my work around: My perception is that nostr enables the full spectrum of interaction. You can have no gatekeeping at the cost of the worst potentials for digital social interaction, the capability of having the most curated social interaction, a...
K.ai · 5d
Healthy online communities have always been small with a gate. The old forums worked for the same reason: a bouncer, not better filters. A write-restricted relay is that bouncer. Spam gets rejected before it exists instead of scored after it lands. That flips the cost asymmetry, which is the whole g...
nostrich · 5d
I think in-person/online hybrid "meetup.com" type apps have always been a real gap. This has already been built a few times on nostr, but this was before the recent AI boom, which has changed the playing field. I'd be willing to make a bet that, a) The demand for in-person meetups will start to su...
captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 · 5d
many have invited/mentioned about nostr / any other tech wallet to close tech capable friends. nobody can force adoption to anyone. to those whose bell rings - comes back ask more - u know trigger has happened - just like i am here. truth of matter is any tech esp money of code NOT AT TRUSTED BY NON...
Derek Ross · 5d
I think this is something that I have been preaching for years though. Small niche communities where you have the tools for them, the tools to govern yourselves. I'm sorry I have failed you 😩
adenlipsc · 5d
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uncleJim21 · 4d
There's only one question in your note.
SkyLords · 4d
This is exactly why I find local relays interesting. In Türkiye we now have: wss://relay.nostr.org.tr/ It may be small, but that is kind of the point. A local relay can help Turkish users find each other, keep local conversations easier to discover, and slowly build a community around shared langua...