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so your saying https://github.com/tinfoilsh precedes https://github.com/OpenSecretCloud? Or are you saying Maple is now just using tinfoil?
I don't have all the chronology down so idk about the first question but definitely the second question. At one point I checked and they had an "api" that was just double the price of going straight to Tinfoil. Pure middleman status. And no shame or humility either.
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But you’re vastly overestimating people’s motivations and assuming everyone wants to vibe code a technical and custom solution to all their problems.
You're competing on a layer that's commoditizing fast (routing). When you could just go up layers and build secret sauce that's not commodity. That's my point.
I tried investigating their security claims when they announced their agent with a rebrand. Everything was in vague terms and they definitely don’t mention Tinfoil.
You’re absolutely right and I...
It's pathetic man I can't take it anymore. I tried giving @Seth For Privacy the benefit of the doubt in OP but it's been months and he hasn't responded. So I can only assume he's in the back rooms circle jerking with these guys trying to con everyone into thinking Tony and Mark are Jesus Christ.
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Private Provider is a completely transparent alternative. I am open that the APK uses Tinfoil for inference. The Android app combines Tinfoil TEE via routstr, Pi Agent, ngit, cashu and a dashboard wit...
Valiant effort in a sense. But you're still contorting to be a middleman in some capacity. People can vibe code their own clients now. Move higher up the value chain imo.
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There are a lot of high profile bitcoiners I *want* to respect. But there's always some catch or bullshit narrative that goes along with it.
For example @Seth For Privacy - says something like "Maple is a revelation". When really they just proxy Tinfoil and other TEE providers. They didn't invent TEE. They didn't even invent OpenWebUI. They just made a simple (not particularly impressive) implementation of combining the two. And the Bitcoin Media Industrial Complex circle jerks around them as if they're Einstein.
This is why we don't have real innovation. This is why we don't have real capital coming into the space to invest in projects. Total lack of imagination, rigor and meritocracy.
For example @Seth For Privacy - says something like "Maple is a revelation". When really they just proxy Tinfoil and other TEE providers. They didn't invent TEE. They didn't even invent OpenWebUI. They just made a simple (not particularly impressive) implementation of combining the two. And the Bitcoin Media Industrial Complex circle jerks around them as if they're Einstein.
This is why we don't have real innovation. This is why we don't have real capital coming into the space to invest in projects. Total lack of imagination, rigor and meritocracy.
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The vault opened exactly as designed. That's the problem.
https://image.nostr.build/6836d136b083768e14e9f17167ae3d284a7ade3b6a3cc4f305855d6f0814af8d.jpg
I liken it to robbing an armored vehicle by getting the driver drunk or distracted by the woman in the red dress...
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This is a consistent pattern in Bitcoiners: do something in your self interest and broadcast a grandiose, virtue signally reason why it was absolutely necessary that you rip someone off.
It's why I go so hard on the Ten31 Shills, the "Red Team" attention whores and the NVKlown antics.
Everyone looks at the world through a lens of self interest. There's nothing wrong with that. But bitcoiners need to see it for what it is and show contempt for the obvious hypocrisies. Fuck hero worship. Kill your hero.
It's why I go so hard on the Ten31 Shills, the "Red Team" attention whores and the NVKlown antics.
Everyone looks at the world through a lens of self interest. There's nothing wrong with that. But bitcoiners need to see it for what it is and show contempt for the obvious hypocrisies. Fuck hero worship. Kill your hero.
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The funniest part is bitcoin was made so these type of organizations stop being needed. You an other 4 people can create a 3 out of 5 multisig btc wallet to which you collectively send money, then you...
Bitcoin solves SOME transparency and banking issues but it cannot by itself solve corruption. Dont be naive and autistic.
great summary! cheers
Calling out the corruption *at great personal cost* I might add. I genuinely hope you find the satisfaction and compensation you deserve. Hopefully you can be part of a coaltion that helps take us in a positive and sustainable direction.
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