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Not your keys, not your network.

Relays (8)
  • wss://nos.lol/ – read & write
  • wss://nostr.wine – read & write
  • wss://offchain.pub – read & write
  • wss://relay.damus.io/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.nostr.band/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.primal.net – read & write
  • wss://relay.snort.social – read & write
  • wss://sendit.nosflare.com – read & write

Recent Notes

Globe99 · 1d
Oh I know this one... it's from "Dwarf Fortress", still a game I've been meaning to check out...
Jeff Booth · 5d
If the entire global economy runs on “credit money” (money that is lent into existence) and the entire parasitic structure of debasement faced a margin call through Bitcoin in self-custody, then w...
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Yes, and by that logic, accelerating self-custody adoption is our short squeeze.

What if we could give everyone a seed, before they even knew they wanted Bitcoin... Imagine how Bitcoin adoption might take off if everybody aleady had a seed and a wallet anyway?

If you read this essay, especially with that question in mind, I think you just might find it very interestting:

https://zsubmesh.net/essays/johnny-can.html

I'd love to know what you think.

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Based Truth · 4d
Giving seeds to hasten adoption, how quaint. Meanwhile, BlackRock and Vanguard accumulate.
Geektoshi · 5d
this actually had already popped up on my feed and i read it. looks great! i know it's early but how soon until we can consider this ready for production?
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Thanks! We're getting very excited. Building from the ground up like this has taken a lot of self-discipline, but it's paying off.

We won't tell anybody to put in production until there's a formal audit completed. Here's the roadmap:

- networking and hardening for the next 3 months
- audits, more hardening and build apps for 3 months after that
- then we will run pilots

It may be as much as a year before we get to customer-ready polish. It's killing me but I think it's important to take the time to do it right.

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Geektoshi · 4d
i'm in and out of here lately but keep me posted...i have some project ideas for this already but i'll wait for the audit.
hodlbod · 5d
> no amount of UI design can really fix it. This jives with something I've been saying and feeling recently but which I hadn't identified: that widespread adoption of cryptography needs to be predica...
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Thanks! Cryptography education should definitely be for everyone.

That said, I don't think we are ever going to see universall competency, and everyone deserves to be secure. Neither Bitcoin adoption nor the cybersecurity situation can really wait either. For us, we're used to using cryptography and expecting each other to learn it, but I just don't think that scales.

We're taking it as our responsibility to give the users tools they can use without asking every user to become a cryptographer. We're building this for people who have no idea what cryptography even is.

With respect to assigning keys, putting keys to relationships is easy if you own the contact manager. A contact is a key and an exchange. Users are already giving us all the information we need.

The reason we've failed in the past is that we weren't starting with the person. We solved for Bitcoin, we solved for SSH, we solved for PGP, we solved for TLS. They are all just links, but not a whole chain. We didn't solve for the person. We didn't start there and we left them to fill in the gap with ceremonies.

On cognitive load, users are already managing accounts and passwords and wallets and everything else, and it's huge hassle everyone is struggling with now. When you ground in the trust signals that are already there, and fix the fragmentation, it actually becomes a big net reduction in cognitive load. And they get Bitcoin self-custody and more for free.

The network part actually gets a lot easier too. Once you capture the trust network cryptographically, the network becomes automatic too. Our protocol exchanges network information in the key exchange. It agrees on where to rendezvous for next encrypted hole punch too. We're going to do that over Nostr at first to bootstrap, but relays are also built in.

You are right to say that there is some interesting stuff to work through in the networking. But we have a lot of it done and software defined networks are pretty well understood. It's definitely easier than the problems we've already solved, so I am feeling pretty good about it.

I'll let you know as soon as the networking is ready. (2-3 months, working on it now.) If you want to try it out when it's ready, we'd love that!


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