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frphank · 33w
Will do.
Twntyn · 33w
Sorry I think we won‘t get to a Common Sense. All I can say is
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Sry sent by mistake…

All I can say is:

How can you deny the network effect? This is just plain naive. Bitcoin Adoption is growing everywhere.

Circular Economy is not here - YET.
Bit you know what? This is exactly how a Network effect would come in place. It doesn‘t make a big „BANG“ and everything is there at once.
Instead naturally growing - that’s exactly whats happening now.

Monetary Supply has NOT to be decreased or lowered to match goods and services.
If you believe so I don‘t think we can come to a common sense 🤷‍♂️.

In the past humanity used Gold coins.
The Problem with that was not the fact that the Gold coin Supply couldn‘t be increased fast.
(First time I would hear this argument)

The Problem was the divisibility, the transferability and that it could be altered with (which was done a lot)

But all of these points are solved by Bitcoin.

So again - I don‘t see your arguments. In my view they are plain wrong 🤷‍♂️.

So I guess: agree to disagree?

But I would love to have this conversation again in 5 years!
Especially regarding the newtwork effect 😊.
Twntyn · 33w
Sry sent by mistake… All I can say is: How can you deny the network effect? This is just plain naive. Bitcoin Adoption is growing everywhere. Circular Economy is not here - YET. Bit you know what? This is exactly how a Network effect would come in place. It doesn‘t make a big „BANG“ and...
frphank · 33w
No, you need to have network effects and a mechanism to control supply so that the amount in circulation roughly matches the goods and services on offer. This is really hard so only governments curre...
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Bitcoin and network effect? - Check

Controlling Money Supply in Bitcoin? - Check

Control of supply in goods and Services in circulation and offer is NOT needed (wtf?!?!). —>Otherwise gold would not function at all.

So honest question: What is the Problem again?
frphank · 33w
> Bitcoin and network effect? - Check A network for a currency would be a circular economy of buyers and sellers. There's no such thing. > Controlling Money Supply in Bitcoin? - Check Controlling doesn't mean limiting. It means the supply can be increased or decreased to match the goods and servi...
frphank · 33w
Yes it's their fault because they don't offer a currency that allows for stable prices. The shops price in fiat because prices are relatively stable. Not perfectly stable of course, could be bette, b...
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And again - how would you think a new monetary system would evolve?


You really think the way it would is Like:
„Here, I made this new Willynilly-currency: I will set the Price for 100g of bread to 10 Willynillys.“

And everything accepts this and a new currency is born? Really?
frphank · 33w
No, you need to have network effects and a mechanism to control supply so that the amount in circulation roughly matches the goods and services on offer. This is really hard so only governments currently can do it.
frphank · 33w
It says Bitcoin but then the price quote, €0.50, is in fiat. That shows the fiat conversion right there. The Bitcoin price will fluctuate accordingly.
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Yeah I know - this was more of a funny side joke.

Of course right now people will set the Price connected to the conversion rate to Fiat. But how else should an emerging new Money System evolve? This will change with time 🙂

But there are already (very few) people living and paying only in Bitcoin. It‘s not their fault the sellers of products connect the Bitcoin price to the Fiat price. So these bitcoiners already live in a Bitcoin Standard.
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frphank · 33w
Yes it's their fault because they don't offer a currency that allows for stable prices. The shops price in fiat because prices are relatively stable. Not perfectly stable of course, could be bette, but much more stable than Bitcoin.
frphank · 33w
It says Bitcoin but then the price quote, €0.50, is in fiat. That shows the fiat conversion right there. The Bitcoin price will fluctuate accordingly.