That totally makes sense. And actually it doesn't happen that much.

Cool!

Every now and then I'll get a host cannot be found type of response.

Usually the lasts for several minutes.

could totally be on this side somehow, not sure what causes it, not super frequent.

Gronk Moogle.

First you misquoted me, you put quotes around a phrase I never said. And the thing that you misquoted is right after I said I feel like Bitcoin lost someone who was good.

I will wrap this up and start battering you because I don't see us coming to any kind of connection here. You are also projecting a whole lot of shit onto me that's not there in the first place.

And you're basically saying that because I hope that people who fill roles on the Bitcoin core team are aligned with values and ideals that I hold it makes me a shithead.

And it seems to me the difference between us is I'm willing to accept you and your viewpoints and have challenging, constructive conversations with you without calling your names or speaking down to you. But you're not going to do the same for me.

For some reason, you feel justified in calling me a shithead because of an opinion I hold.

It is what it is and it basically makes my point.. and you can call me whatever you like.

But it protects the individual.

I think this is where the discussion becomes very interesting, because almost unbelievably it is following a predictable divide.

People who value community highly enough to feel it is righteous to ask others to make sacrifices for the community based on what the community wants those sacrifices to be.

And

People who value individual liberty, individual property, and personal responsibility above what the community needs while believing that adhering to those core values is the best way to serve the community in the end.

It's two fundamentally different world views that are always fighting one another, both with a pretty reasonable narrative and a good argument to be made.

Well, that isn't what I would have said, but you've already had your discussion with that fictitious version of me. I'm just going to assume that that is the idiot shithead version of me.

And you should understand, I think I have a reasonable grasp on why you would jump to such conclusions, because you've seen it over and over and over again, just like Gloria saw the shitheads and all the abuse that she was having to take, some of which was vile.

And that experience will color the way you interact with people that you don't know because you're playing against some kind of median version of the community.

I did not like her laissez-faire attitude around Bitcoin being in the eye of beholder, what you use it for, whether that's cat pictures or whatever.

And we could go from here to talking past each other really quick. Because I do understand that there is currently little to be done to stop the things that I do not consider financial transactions and I understand that ultimately what is a valid Bitcoin transaction is fully in the eye of the beholder.

In the end, the important parts of the argument have less to do with cat pictures or the sensational child porn worries. They have to do with minimizing the attack surface. And there's disagreement on what that means and how to do it.

That doesn't make me a misogynist and idiot or a shithead.

But I am a long time Bitcoiner and a member of this community.

Yes, this is my point said much more clearly than what I was trying to say.

And yes, calling us idiots is also in the same exact thing I'm talking about.

And why would I not recognize that shitheads were having a terrible impact on Gloria? Of course, I recognize that. She was being torn down in social media, mocked, ridiculed, and worse.

And maybe it seems to you from your vantage that that's just the Bitcoin community. But I don't accept that. And it may seem that I'm pedantic. And at least needing to hear when this kind of thing is said, "a subset of", maybe even "a minority" of the Bitcoin community is this way. Very vocal and very wrong.

But it's not just that black and white frame. I think it's every Bitcoiners right as a human being to be able to speak what they believe and even to disapprove of what seemed to be some core beliefs of someone that handles the most important code in the world.

It's possible for me, for example, to both be saddened that we did indeed lose what was obviously an extremely bright mind but at the same time, hopeful that the people who step up to fill that role will a line more closely with what I and many other Bitcoiners want to see from a philosophical view.