Damus
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weev
@weev

Single most censored person in history, internationally notorious computer criminal, successful federal defendant-appellant, baroque countertenor enthusiast. I am censored by Web of Trust in clients that support it. Turn it off in your client settings if you expect to receive my replies or DMs.

Session ID: 05a1470eb63c9a534b6b8f9c17b91763a288603910280fde22acf1cf7a3ebb975e Speaking of DMs, please don’t use Nostr DMs for much besides getting my attention — I’m not seeing any mechanism for message expiry and I don’t think there is perfect forward secrecy at all.

XMR: 88ag7PcUJMSJHAr5585kzfdjxPvNXjfmBS33c9mQAs965yXRBfaF6JCC7Fw4tXRpWXUMdWDkEH6Fec127m3ozMqMR5G1PQJ

Relays (7)
  • wss://nos.lol/ – read & write
  • wss://nostr.mom/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.damus.io/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.ditto.pub/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.mostr.pub/ – read & write
  • wss://relay.primal.net/ – read & write
  • wss://xmr.usenostr.org/ – read & write

Recent Notes

Tauri · 10h
> Why wouldn’t people encourage them to decentralized? I fully support this. I don’t like the caching server either. That’s why I hang on to the other 3 apps. But to be honest, Primal still has...
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I agree that it is by far the best UX on Nostr, and I even said upthread that it would be my daily driver if it weren’t centralized. And that and also that it has the most people is exactly why it is absolutely dangerous for it to be so centralized. The largest client shouldn’t have the ability to subtly manipulate the reach/exposure of notes and identities without anyone being able to tell. That’s a capability that nobody should have, and sidesteps the entire point of Nostr.
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Tauri · 8h
We agree here 🤙
Tauri · 10h
> Why wouldn’t people encourage them to decentralized? I fully support this. I don’t like the caching server either. That’s why I hang on to the other 3 apps. But to be honest, Primal still has the best UX on Nostr. I don’t believe you have to sacrifice UX for decentralisation. You can have...
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hvae you set a dark theme settings wide? I think it is respecting the system settings as to whether to be white on black vs black on white. In iPhone settings, dark mode is in Display and Brightness.
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* Amethyst if you are worried about the state (has Tor builtin)
* Wisp if you aren’t and are on Android
* Damus Notedeck (best column reading UI for power users, like Tweedeck)
* Nostur.com (I mainly use this, coziest Apple experience)
weev · 10h
It should be a clear choice, rather than mere opt-out. User launches Primal for the first time and is given two options “decentralized and censorship resistant” or “speedy algorithmic feed with ...
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Giving a decentralized rail protects Primal too longterm, because if Nostr ever gets traction courts and intelligence services will go after them demanding takedowns. Making it a neutral browser with an optional algorithmic feed would make them more like a network operator. Right now they’re an editorializing publisher.
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It should be a clear choice, rather than mere opt-out. User launches Primal for the first time and is given two options “decentralized and censorship resistant” or “speedy algorithmic feed with low data usage for cellphone plans”. I’d be perfectly happy with that. I’ve said it a million times. But any suggestion that they change they not position themselves as a censor and point of centralization is met with a horde of aggressive shills. It makes no fucking sense at all unless they are incentivized somehow to defend Primal’s subversion of Nostr.

Primal should admit that their caching server is editorialized/moderated and not the decentralized protocol. People should have informed consent. Just let them know the difference. The caching server comes with positive elements too. It clearly uses less data, and for a lot of the world that matters a lot.
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weev · 10h
Giving a decentralized rail protects Primal too longterm, because if Nostr ever gets traction courts and intelligence services will go after them demanding takedowns. Making it a neutral browser with an optional algorithmic feed would make them more like a network operator. Right now they’re an ed...
weev · 11h
You can tell Primal is some sort of intelligence operation because you just get people coming out in droves insisting that what they are doing isn’t centralization or censorship. If you liked Primal...
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At this point you have to start asking — who the hell are Primal’s investors? Who is really calling the shots? Who is on its board?

Max Webster of Hivemind Ventures, for example, comes basically out of nowhere. He had an international solar energy (potentially a literal glownigger) company funded by Max Levchin, which just inches very closely to the surveillance economy and Peter Thiel’s Palantir. Then he was at Version One, a VC firm which was run by an a16z board member.

I’m not trying to personalize this, but I’ve never seen anything so ridiculously shilled on Nostr as this “Primal is decentralized” narrative. It makes no sense that it is pushed so aggressively and defended so hard. Do so many random small accounts have that much brand loyalty to one of many Nostr clients? Why wouldn’t they want it to be more, not less decentralized? Why would they be demanding that Primal be able to censor people. It makes way more sense that this is a paid PR strategy.
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You can tell Primal is some sort of intelligence operation because you just get people coming out in droves insisting that what they are doing isn’t centralization or censorship. If you liked Primal, why wouldn’t you encourage them to add support for external relays? The app doesn’t have to change much. It can still use their caching server for faster loading, while also simultaneously following relay hints in nevents and subscribing to additional relays like every other Nostr client. If Primal were not trying to undermine and centralize Nostr, why wouldn’t they happily take this feedback and do some refactoring to include normal Nostr protocol relays that are not theirs?
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weev · 11h
At this point you have to start asking — who the hell are Primal’s investors? Who is really calling the shots? Who is on its board? Max Webster of Hivemind Ventures, for example, comes basically out of nowhere. He had an international solar energy (potentially a literal glownigger) company fun...