Yeah... But they've also siloed themselves by pretty much telling anyone with a clue to go fuck themselves any time anyone dares to point out their flaws. And they've spent a lot more time finding the splinters in other people's eyes than looking for planks in their own, all to avoid competition (which probably would have resulted in far more competent eyes on their code years ago). That's self-inflicted to a degree. And I don't think that's the whole team. It's their leadership. None of these people are all bad either. But just glossing over faults risks repeating the same shit down the road.