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GM Dear Nostr,
I need your help. I need all the arguments you can think of, why it would be a terrible idea to build public infrastructure based on ActvityPub and/or atproto instead of Nostr.
There is a public recommendation for action for german education infrastructure that says that open protocol based initiatives should be used in near future to get rid of big tech companies in public education infrastructures. But they name EuroSky and Fediverse as examples.
I need to get Nostr in there for reasons. So I would like to collect the biggest list of counter arguments. Technical, sustainability, societal perspectives, whatever comes to your mind.
cc @Constant @Sebastix @Jurjen de Vries @Sync @verbiricha @Renaud Lifchitz you got much bigger reach, please share 🫂
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Weatherall · 1d

anything built for "the public" is a total waste.

## Identity ActivityPub identities are constitutively bound to a domain: @[email protected]. The domain is not an address but part of the identity itself. In a federal system where each state runs its own instance, identity is therefore state-bound — and it ends when the state stops operatin...

## Signatures Nostr events are atomic and self-verifiable: generate a hash, verify the Schnorr signature against the public key—offline, without network access, and without additional context. The key *is* the identity. In atproto, the signature is attached to the repository commit rather than t...

राज · 1d

govts only really understand politics. so you can argue that atproto and actpub are left wing authoritarian safe spaces and hence supporting only them would be political discrimination towards right wing freedom loving people.

Renaud Lifchitz · 1d

See here: nostr:nevent1qgspue77xa2pwyr3608ek39ku4rtm98apgk2876dhwcmq4rgtjg3deqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qqs8sgvd5j05nl3325jvfe6rl8274grkvp2qsnlk37q9c29hazq9q3guzh68e

You don't want the German govt on here snooping about and legislating. They have the time, money and desire to send C&D letters to every relay operator and media host that doesn't follow whatever rules they decide to impose

bitcoinpoorguy 比特幣傢伙 · 1d

So i will probably ponder this stuff a couple of times, but let me give you what popped up into my head innitially. I feel we should really just go the route of show don't tell in a way...assuming you can actually get the attention of actual people (as opposed to some formal process and comittee wh...

Anything from its technical merits, data transportability to redundant infrastructure. ( should maybe turn this into an infographic ) from being a simple meta data & kind 1 note protocol to an actual application runtime. It’s not fair to compare Nostr to these other things 😆 since we do soooo m...

nostr:nprofile1qqspchlne2kdsskqrh9g7duzxxckv963d5s5mf6u0t4th60pal5upasjjaanv identity is where i would push hardest for a school system. on activitypub a student handle is @name@server, so when a district changes vendor or an instance shuts down, the account and the whole social graph go with it. on...

Simplicity. That ATproto is unbearably complex to implement and maintain

Will reply later and will also get through the comments. But for now - this fediforum keynote can help you the current fediverse status https://spectra.video/w/s8DKnnaPFw2b1JS8zD5VE8 and perhaps also https://spectra.video/w/mDnE8FbYh1PXiaCPxsniGQ?start=3s (which I havent watched yet) - https://so...

If they're trying to get away from American infrastructure, the best argument would likely be that the Mastodon Inc (nonprofit) and Bluesky PBC are both registered in the United States. On the technical side, Nostr: * Has permanently referencable events and redundancy, meaning content can be archiv...

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JAC◎₿ · 11h

ActivityPub replaces Big Tech with instance admins. ATProto replaces it with a directory and labelers. Same leash, better branding. If the kid doesn’t hold the key, you didn’t leave the platform. You subcontracted it.

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