We cannot keep it open & censorship resistent if devs decide the rules in a top down fashion & remove decentralized ways for nodes to set policy. All while openly communicating hostility toward a major portion of the user base.

What I described are just the basic & rather self evident steps of something becoming money. This is most likely going to take more than a generation (if people can refrian from screwing it up).

That's why it is SO important to recognize the *sensitive dependence on initial conditions* and not nudge things in the wrong direction.

I am not really in favor of bip110, I prefer the progress that was being made with filters & Knots & DATUM. But most of the OG bitcoiners I know are opposed to spam. It's actually ONLY people prominent enough to have been captured in some form or fashion that seem to be suddenly in support of spam & they only seem to make stupid arguments from authority & try to censor people who disagree with them.

It's my node, I don't have to relay garbage & I don't have to include it in blocks that I mine. I also don't have to update to code that invites more of what I don't want or that prevents me from trying to exclude it.

Adoption occurs in steps. Store of value is first. Most people have to want a thing before it can become a means of exchange because people don't exchange for things they don't want. Then once everyone trades with it, it can become a unit of account.

Propagating garbage all over the network in a way that prevents people from actually using a monetary network to send money is not the path to smaller blocks that any sane person should support.

Idk what your wager has to do with what I am saying. In my view this has always been a problem of *sensitive dependence on initial conditions.*

Is anyone actually claiming that v30 is going to cause a sudden collapse in anything?

I just think it's retarded to increase space for garabge unnecessarily when the previous accidental increase has already created problems & I think removing the ability for people to filter said garabage (and being mad that someone adds back filter options that have always been there) is pretty messed up.

One side is trying to remove individual node options to make the network eaiser to centrally direct & the other is trying to protect real decentealization.

Does that mean the dems also supported it when they looked the other way during pizzagate & when they elected Biden who is about as obvious a pedo as it gets (daughter's diary - sex trafficking & crackhead son - both behaviors consistent with sexual abuse)?

This is not a left vs right thing. It's a problem involving 95% of the political class being controlled by the eugenicist inbred pedo banker families who established Israel.

End their ability to print money & their political power dies. Fix the money, fix the world.