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i would ask you, who says the consenus has been a globe the last 4000 years?
i would say it has been mostly since the 1970s , with the Boomers and when they started showing the blue marble on TV.
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“Who says the consensus has been a globe for the last 4000 years?”
That’s my bad, I changed the question to one which is easier to challenge. Well done you for spotting it and taking the opportunity to answer with a question of your own while simultaneously avoiding answering my original question.
To answer your question; “Who says the consensus has been a globe for the last 4000 years?” The body of scientific work produced over that period, some of which I have alluded to earlier in our conversation, all of which you dismissed.
If, as you claim, the common assumption was that the earth was flat pre 1970’s it should be easy to find some evidence of that in the scientific literature or educational text books. An extremely brief, not so thorough, internet search didn’t turn up any thing for me except for the misconception that everyone in the Middle Ages thought the earth was flat which found its way into educational texts. This is not to be confused with education in the late twentieth century teaching that the earth actually was flat for which I did not see any evidence. However, I remain confident that you will have some examples on hand to dissuade me of my ill conceived notions on this.
As a personal anecdote; I don’t know how old you are but I know people who went to school before the 1970s and none of them were taught that the earth was flat.
Additional personal anecdote; Why would mariners make their lives more difficult than necessary by making and using maps and navigation techniques that assume a globe earth rather than flat? And before you say they don’t, I have friends and family who are sailors and have used said techniques while navigating at sea. Techniques that simply would not work if the earth was flat.
To return to your point about the TV being a powerful brainwashing tool, I do agree with you on that. Not as powerful as social media though. Which, as we know came into our lives at a much later date than TV and the advent of which is not far from the increase in talk of, and belief in, a flat earth. If we’re looking for correlations between introduction of technology and change in opinions about previously established ‘facts’ I would posit that the correlation is stronger for social media > flat earth than TV > globe earth.
But, if you are correct and we have been brainwashed via TV about the shape of the earth who decided to do it and why? And how did they convince all world governments to get on board with the lie? Surely I don’t need to remind you that the US and USSR were deep in the Cold War during the 1970s. Are you suggesting they were ready to start a nuclear war against each other but at the same time colluding to brainwash their populations about the shape of the earth? To what end? The space program would have had just as mush validity if the earth were flat, we would still want to know what was above and below us.
And if we’re saying that the government knew that the earth was flat before the space program, how did they know? How did they find out? And most importantly what incentivised them to lie about it?
And if it’s all just about money and the space program was just about siphoning money away from people for the elites to put in their piggy banks don’t you think there are easier ways to do that which don’t involve such elaborate and hard to execute lies?
Here’s a counter proposal for you.
Which the advent of social media, people with marginalised views could find other people with similar views and form communities around those views. The human need for acceptance drove that desire to find people who accepted you.
As social media developed a monetary incentive emerged to create and share content. Growing your community now had 2 incentives drivers, the need for acceptance and money.
Back over to you.
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