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A recap of the OP_RETURN "debate"

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Core: Filters don't work.
Bitcoiners: They obviously do, otherwise you wouldn't need to remove them.

Core: We don't have the technical means t maintain them, so we're removing the limit.
Bitcoiners: We gave you the technical means in a PR two years ago, Core rejected it, it was implemented in Knots and it works.

Core: We can't stop all spam reliably, so why bother?
Bitcoiners: Because life is not black or white, and fastening your seatbelt when driving a car is safer even though some people die in car crashes.

Core: Here's 7 transactions that even your precious filters didn't catch.
Bitcoiners: Here's 2 million transactions that were caught.

Core: You can't censor valid transactions just because you don't like them. They paid a fee!
Bitcoiners: There's millions of Nigerian princes contacting people through email every day. These are "valid transactions" too, yet you send those to spam. This is obviously not censorship, so that argument is deceitful and intellectually dishonest.

Core: What is spam objectively anyway?
Bitcoiners: The receiver - not the sender - gets to decide what's useful to them. You're removing the ability of nodes to decide that, implying you know best.

Core: These transactions will end up in blocks anyway, and we can't incentivize profit-seeking miners to go out-of-band.
Bitcoiners: It's not your job to incentivize or deter miners. Your job is to work on the Bitcoin client while prioritizing the one thing that makes Bitcoin unique and truly decentralized: nodes.

Core: But we want better fee estimation and block propagation.
Bitcoiners: So do we, but never at the expense of decentralization and self-sovereignty. And btw, there is no such thing as "the mempool. Nodes run the show.

Core: This is a technical discussion. Stop philosophying and using analogies, you plebs!
Bitcoiners: We gave you a technical solution that works, the philosophic rationale and the logical arguments. Stop turning Bitcoin into a shitcoin.

Am I missing anything here? @Bitcoin Mechanic @preston @Gigi @Samson Mow
@jack
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If you're seeing bias here, it's because you're too stubborn to admit that one side is clearly more informed, rational and morally calibrated than the other.

This is why there's distrust in Core. It's got nothing to do with technical competency and rational discourse. It's just pure and simple political shenanigans, whataboutisms, strawman arguments and in some cases sheer lies.
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BTCfootsoldier · 43w
100% Man this is definitely exactly what I gathered after watching a few hours of debate and coming to my own conclusion.
Cruz · 43w
I don't want my Node relaying and storing JPEGS, The end.
ynniv · 43w
> Here's 2 million transactions that were caught Link?
BTC Update · 43w
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Shawn C. · 43w
Thanks for this summary, very informative. It makes sense that any identifiable group that could change Bitcoin would come under the temptation to cash in to a deep pocketed group like the shitcoiners, who have netted billions running an affinity scam around Bitcoin. We should do a fundraiser for...
Kush · 42w
Sound as a self custody sat!
AndyR · 42w
Hi, we addressed op return in our latest video. Would you ming watching ?
Tauri · 25w
You nailed it. Good job sir. 👌
johnBTCdoe profile picture
Spam on #Bitcoin is like illegal migrants.

You hear arguments like:
"They are people too"
"Don't be racist"
"Diversity is good for everyone"

Yet the end result is inevitably the degradation of the livelihood of legal/honest citizens.
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johnBTCdoe profile picture
New bitaxe Ultra tuned and pointing hashrate at @OCEAN
with #bolt12 all set up on @Umbrel ☂️

If I get 0 sats over the next few months, it will still be worth it.

Sometimes it's not about profit. It's about giving a damn and the greater good.

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Beiner · 95w
Nope not for me. The better pay me for my hash fuck that
Hodlers Official⚡️ · 104w
I tell girls it’s a motorcycle, but ya