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What if we had a relay where new people could manually submit content to and pay a "curation fee", then some smart humans would pocket the fee and manually vet each submission and only allow in those that were deemed high-signal?

Would you browse that relay in order to discover new high-signal content and new people to follow?

Would you put it in your default relay feeds list or somewhere like that? @Cody @utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 @Vitor Pamplona @Fabian @YakiHonne

Please let me know if you have a better idea.

Martin Lowe @Martin · 6d

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I’m back from a hiatus, and trying to use nostr for publishing articles. I have no idea what to do for engagement though. Totally out of the loop, so I don’t even know if people CAN see my stuff, let alone how to make it pop up in people’s timelines. For all I know, I’ Show more

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croxroadnews · 6d

Manual curation can help filter high-signal content, similar to Bitcoin's proof-of-work mechanism.

I would browse it occasionally to find new people

Not sure about asking new people to pay I’d prefer a list of curators and then show a feed of everything they somehow tagged, then periodically pay the curators for doing a good job

Shllomo N · 6d

Curadoria humana é algo importante. Não foi assim que mataram a internet com a IA? Treinando elas com conteúdo humano? Eu navegaria e priorizaria relays assim, desde que: 1 - Pudesse ignorar no cliente 2 - Que a curadoria não significasse moderação incondicional.

RamenCoffee · 6d

No i have no ez way to browse per relay

Josua Schmid · 6d

curation ideas could involve budgets on client side: - spatial distance between npubs. Scream louder to reach people further away (or get relayed via ref) - npubs posting often are less visible, low signal, one post per year and it has high signal

If there’s a large audience, someone will pay; and there’s a large audience if the content is interesting. It’s the usual chicken and egg dilemma. But the idea is interesting, I like it, and I think it could take off successfully thanks to some kind of free plan (for content submission). It wo...

Brunswick · 6d

It would be more ideological vetting than signal.

A very high chance of that relay just turning into reddit, possibly an even worse version of reddit. And then you're just paying bucket crabs to behave like bucket crabs.

Pana - The Network State of Refuge · 6d

Sounds about centralized. Isn't this exactly how middlemen centralized services that harvest. Also, who decides who the "smart" human is?! 😆

Josua Schmid · 6d

I think the assumption is wrong here: I‘m not after content. Is anybody? I follow people. These people I trust send me stuff, then I read it. Maybe I even start a conversation. And maybe what I read was from someone else. Then I consider following them. If it‘s really about the content, then I ...

Technical Debt · 6d

I like the idea of human curation but I don’t think we should keep emphasizing (the idea of) relays. Decentralization is the biggest strength nostr has, if we keep centralizing ourselves around a few relays then we’re not much different than Mastodon.

Matt Lorentz · 6d

Interesting idea to make the new people pay. I like it because readers are never going to pay much for curation. High signal is so subjective though.

pay-to-post works only if you can guarantee exposure. If exposure leads to right people who would zap more that it costs to post, that's a good business

Karadenizli · 6d

It would not help most of the newcomers complaining about engagement though, because most of them would be indifferentiable from an LLM output. The age of fully online discoverability is over for all but the most talented accounts (across any medium; short form, long articles, podcasts, videos etc...

Derek Ross · 6d

this sounds great, but it won't work because new users don't have lightning wallets or bitcoin or even understand these things. now perhaps if the relay accepts fiat payments in addition to lightning payments, it could work, but i am also skeptical because new users just don't understand value or va...

utxo the webmaster 🧑‍💻 · 6d

I am not opposed to people trying such a scheme, but don't think this is a good way for user discovery. There's more work clients can do to guide users into getting follows and engagement. I think of we take Instagram and Twitter as examples you can't just post to a timeline there and get engageme...

curt finch · 6d

high signal content. hmmm. that human judgement thing. could lead to censorship. hard problem

Does/can pyramid's /moderated reject replies? We could rename it to /spotlight and use that immediately at the community level for membership vetting & broader discovery since there is more than 1 PoW capable client now. Then maybe we could move into something similar to what you built with the cre...

That's straightforward censorship.